Train services at Bergen op Zoom on January 28, 2023

This page shows all trains which have departed from station Bergen op Zoom on Saturday, January 28, 2023. This includes all trains scheduled to depart, including trains which were eventually cancelled.

Services which were cancelled in advance, for example due to engineering works, are not included in this overview.

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Bergen op Zoom
Saturday, January 28, 2023
Total services 239
On time 147 (62%)
Cancelled services 92 (38%)
Delayed trains* 0 (0%)
* trains delayed for 5 minutes or more, excluding cancelled services

Train services

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06:00 – 07:00

1 service, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
06:45 06:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984781 —

07:00 – 08:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
07:00 07:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984272 —
Train is cancelled
07:00 07:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984310 —
Train is cancelled
07:00 07:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984517 —
07:00 07:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984555 —
07:15 07:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984782 —
07:23 07:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984498 —
Train is cancelled
07:23 07:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984743 —
07:30 07:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984273 —
Train is cancelled
07:30 07:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984311 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
07:30 07:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984518 —
07:30 07:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984556 —
07:45 07:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984783 —
07:53 07:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984499 —
Train is cancelled
07:53 07:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984744 —

08:00 – 09:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
08:00 08:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984274 —
Train is cancelled
08:00 08:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984312 —
Train is cancelled
08:00 08:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984519 —
08:00 08:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984557 —
08:15 08:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984784 —
08:23 08:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984500 —
Train is cancelled
08:23 08:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984745 —
08:30 08:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984275 —
Train is cancelled
08:30 08:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984313 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
08:30 08:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984520 —
08:30 08:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984558 —
08:45 08:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984785 —
08:53 08:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984501 —
Train is cancelled
08:53 08:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984746 —

09:00 – 10:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
09:00 09:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984276 —
Train is cancelled
09:00 09:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984314 —
Train is cancelled
09:00 09:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984521 —
09:00 09:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984559 —
09:15 09:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984786 —
09:23 09:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984502 —
Train is cancelled
09:23 09:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984747 —
09:30 09:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984277 —
Train is cancelled
09:30 09:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984315 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
09:30 09:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984522 —
09:30 09:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984560 —
09:45 09:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984787 —
09:53 09:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984503 —
Train is cancelled
09:53 09:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984748 —

10:00 – 11:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
10:00 10:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984278 —
Train is cancelled
10:00 10:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984316 —
Train is cancelled
10:00 10:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984523 —
10:00 10:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984561 —
10:15 10:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984788 —
10:23 10:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984504 —
Train is cancelled
10:23 10:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984749 —
10:30 10:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984279 —
Train is cancelled
10:30 10:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984317 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
10:30 10:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984524 —
10:30 10:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984562 —
10:45 10:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984789 —
10:53 10:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984505 —
Train is cancelled
10:53 10:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984750 —

11:00 – 12:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
11:00 11:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984280 —
Train is cancelled
11:00 11:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984318 —
Train is cancelled
11:00 11:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984525 —
11:00 11:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984563 —
11:15 11:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984790 —
11:23 11:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984506 —
Train is cancelled
11:23 11:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984751 —
11:30 11:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984281 —
Train is cancelled
11:30 11:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984319 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
11:30 11:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984526 —
11:30 11:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984564 —
11:45 11:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984791 —
11:53 11:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984507 —
Train is cancelled
11:53 11:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984752 —

12:00 – 13:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
12:00 12:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984282 —
Train is cancelled
12:00 12:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984320 —
Train is cancelled
12:00 12:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984527 —
12:00 12:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984565 —
12:15 12:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984792 —
12:23 12:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984508 —
Train is cancelled
12:23 12:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984753 —
12:30 12:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984283 —
Train is cancelled
12:30 12:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984321 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
12:30 12:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984528 —
12:30 12:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984566 —
12:45 12:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984793 —
12:53 12:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984509 —
Train is cancelled
12:53 12:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984754 —

13:00 – 14:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
13:00 13:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984284 —
Train is cancelled
13:00 13:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984322 —
Train is cancelled
13:00 13:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984529 —
13:00 13:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984567 —
13:15 13:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984794 —
13:23 13:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984510 —
Train is cancelled
13:23 13:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984755 —
13:30 13:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984285 —
Train is cancelled
13:30 13:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984323 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
13:30 13:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984530 —
13:30 13:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984568 —
13:45 13:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984795 —
13:53 13:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984511 —
Train is cancelled
13:53 13:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984756 —

14:00 – 15:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
14:00 14:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984286 —
Train is cancelled
14:00 14:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984324 —
Train is cancelled
14:00 14:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984531 —
14:00 14:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984569 —
14:15 14:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984796 —
14:23 14:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984512 —
Train is cancelled
14:23 14:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984757 —
14:30 14:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984287 —
Train is cancelled
14:30 14:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984325 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
14:30 14:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984532 —
14:30 14:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984570 —
14:45 14:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984797 —
14:53 14:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984513 —
Train is cancelled
14:53 14:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984758 —

15:00 – 16:00

14 services, 6 cancelled (42.9%), 6 delayed (42.9%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
15:00 15:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984288 —
Train is cancelled
15:00 15:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984326 —
Train is cancelled
15:00 15:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984533 —
15:00 15:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984571 —
15:15 15:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984798 —
15:23 15:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984514 —
Train is cancelled
15:23 15:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984759 —
15:30 15:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984289 —
Train is cancelled
15:30 15:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984327 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
15:30 15:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984534 —
15:30 15:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984572 —
15:45 15:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984799 —
15:53 15:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984515 —
Train is cancelled
15:53 15:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984760 —

16:00 – 17:00

13 services, 5 cancelled (38.5%), 5 delayed (38.5%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
16:00 16:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984290 —
Train is cancelled
16:00 16:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984328 —
Train is cancelled
16:00 16:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984535 —
16:00 16:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984573 —
16:15 16:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984800 —
16:23 16:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984516 —
Train is cancelled
16:23 16:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984761 —
16:30 16:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984536 —
16:30 16:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984291 —
Train is cancelled
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
16:30 16:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984329 —
Train is cancelled
16:30 16:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984574 —
16:45 16:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984801 —
16:53 16:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984762 —

17:00 – 18:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
17:00 17:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984537 —
17:00 17:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984292 —
Train is cancelled
17:00 17:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984330 —
Train is cancelled
17:00 17:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984575 —
17:15 17:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984802 —
17:23 17:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984763 —
17:30 17:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984538 —
17:30 17:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984293 —
Train is cancelled
17:30 17:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984331 —
Train is cancelled
17:30 17:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984576 —
17:45 17:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984803 —
17:53 17:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984764 —

18:00 – 19:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
18:00 18:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984539 —
18:00 18:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984294 —
Train is cancelled
18:00 18:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984332 —
Train is cancelled
18:00 18:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984577 —
18:15 18:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984804 —
18:23 18:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984765 —
18:30 18:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984540 —
18:30 18:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984295 —
Train is cancelled
18:30 18:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984333 —
Train is cancelled
18:30 18:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984578 —
18:45 18:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984805 —
18:53 18:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984766 —

19:00 – 20:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
19:00 19:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984541 —
19:00 19:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984296 —
Train is cancelled
19:00 19:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984334 —
Train is cancelled
19:00 19:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984579 —
19:15 19:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984806 —
19:23 19:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984767 —
19:30 19:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984542 —
19:30 19:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984297 —
Train is cancelled
19:30 19:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984335 —
Train is cancelled
19:30 19:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984580 —
19:45 19:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984807 —
19:53 19:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984768 —

20:00 – 21:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
20:00 20:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984543 —
20:00 20:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984298 —
Train is cancelled
20:00 20:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984336 —
Train is cancelled
20:00 20:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984581 —
20:15 20:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984808 —
20:23 20:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984769 —
20:30 20:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984544 —
20:30 20:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984299 —
Train is cancelled
20:30 20:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984337 —
Train is cancelled
20:30 20:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984582 —
20:45 20:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984809 —
20:53 20:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984770 —

21:00 – 22:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
21:00 21:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984545 —
21:00 21:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984300 —
Train is cancelled
21:00 21:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984338 —
Train is cancelled
21:00 21:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984583 —
21:15 21:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984810 —
21:23 21:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984771 —
21:30 21:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984546 —
21:30 21:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984301 —
Train is cancelled
21:30 21:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984339 —
Train is cancelled
21:30 21:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984584 —
21:45 21:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984811 —
21:53 21:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984772 —

22:00 – 23:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
22:00 22:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984547 —
22:00 22:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984302 —
Train is cancelled
22:00 22:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984340 —
Train is cancelled
22:00 22:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984585 —
22:15 22:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984812 —
22:23 22:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984773 —
22:30 22:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984548 —
22:30 22:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984303 —
Train is cancelled
22:30 22:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984341 —
Train is cancelled
22:30 22:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984586 —
22:45 22:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984813 —
22:53 22:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984774 —

23:00 – 24:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
23:00 23:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984549 —
23:00 23:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984304 —
Train is cancelled
23:00 23:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984342 —
Train is cancelled
23:00 23:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984587 —
23:15 23:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984814 —
23:23 23:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984775 —
23:30 23:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984550 —
23:30 23:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984305 —
Train is cancelled
23:30 23:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984343 —
Train is cancelled
23:30 23:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984588 —
23:45 23:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984815 —
23:53 23:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984776 —

00:00 – 01:00

12 services, 4 cancelled (33.3%), 4 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
00:00 00:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984551 —
00:00 00:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984306 —
Train is cancelled
00:00 00:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984344 —
Train is cancelled
00:00 00:00 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984589 —
00:15 00:16 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984816 —
00:23 00:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984777 —
00:30 00:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984552 —
00:30 00:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984554 —
00:30 00:30 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984307 —
Train is cancelled
00:30 00:30 Vlissingen Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984309 —
Train is cancelled
00:45 00:46 Vlissingen Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984780 —
00:53 00:53 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984778 —

01:00 – 02:00

3 services, 1 cancelled (33.3%), 1 delayed (33.3%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
01:00 01:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984553 —
01:00 01:00 Roosendaal Snelbus i.p.v. trein 984308 —
Train is cancelled
01:23 01:23 Roosendaal Stopbus i.p.v. trein 984779 —

Train drawings: © Arthur Pijpers, Wiek Vlasma and others