Train services at Geldermalsen on November 1, 2020

This page shows all trains which have departed from station Geldermalsen on Sunday, November 1, 2020. This includes all trains scheduled to depart, including trains which were eventually cancelled.

Services which were cancelled in advance, for example due to engineering works, are not included in this overview.

« Sat 31 October Mon 2 November »
Geldermalsen
Sunday, November 1, 2020
Total services 185
On time 165 (89%)
Cancelled services 14 (8%)
Delayed trains* 6 (3%)
* trains delayed for 5 minutes or more, excluding cancelled services

Train services

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07:00 – 08:00

5 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 07:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7218 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
— 07:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7220 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
07:36 +5 07:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6021 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
07:48 07:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6022 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
07:46 +1 07:54 Tiel Sprinter 6923 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->

08:00 – 09:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 08:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7222 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
08:06 08:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6023 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
08:04 08:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6922 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2657 ->
08:18 +2 08:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6024 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
08:16 08:24 Tiel Sprinter 6925 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->
— 08:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7224 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
08:36 08:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6025 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
08:34 08:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6924 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->
08:48 08:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6026 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
08:46 +3 08:54 Tiel Sprinter 6927 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2621 ->

09:00 – 10:00

11 services, 1 cancelled (9.1%), 1 delayed (9.1%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 09:09 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7226 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
09:06 09:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6027 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
09:04 09:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6926 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->
09:18 09:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6028 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
09:16 09:24 Tiel Sprinter 6929 4
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-3 2994 ->
— 09:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7228 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
09:36 09:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6029 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
09:34 09:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6928 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2621 ->
09:34 09:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 306928 —
Train is cancelled
09:48 09:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6030 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
09:46 09:54 Tiel Sprinter 6931 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->

10:00 – 11:00

11 services, 1 cancelled (9.1%), 1 delayed (9.1%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 10:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7230 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
10:06 10:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6031 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
10:04 10:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6930 1
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2994, SGMM-3 2960 ->
10:18 10:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6032 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
10:16 +1 10:24 Tiel Sprinter 6933 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
— 10:39 +1 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7232 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
10:36 10:42 +1 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6033 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
10:34 10:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6932 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->
10:34 10:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 306932 —
Train is cancelled
10:48 10:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6034 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
10:46 +21 10:54 +13 Tiel Sprinter 6935 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->

11:00 – 12:00

14 services, 4 cancelled (28.6%), 4 delayed (28.6%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 11:09 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7234 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
11:06 +4 11:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6035 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
11:04 11:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6934 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
11:04 11:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 306934 —
Train is cancelled
11:18 +2 11:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6036 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
11:16 11:24 Tiel Sprinter 6937 —
Train is cancelled
11:16 11:24 Tiel Sprinter 306937 4
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-3 2994 ->
— 11:39 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7236 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
11:36 11:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6037 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
11:34 11:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6936 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->
11:34 11:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 306936 —
Train is cancelled
11:48 11:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6038 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
11:46 11:54 Tiel Sprinter 6939 —
Train is cancelled
11:46 +6 11:54 Tiel Sprinter 306939 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->

12:00 – 13:00

14 services, 4 cancelled (28.6%), 4 delayed (28.6%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 12:09 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7238 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
12:06 +3 12:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6039 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
12:04 +4 12:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6938 1
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2994, SGMM-3 2960 ->
12:04 12:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 306938 —
Train is cancelled
12:18 12:23 +1 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6040 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
12:16 12:24 Tiel Sprinter 6941 —
Train is cancelled
12:16 +1 12:24 Tiel Sprinter 306941 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
— 12:39 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7240 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
12:36 12:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6041 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
12:34 12:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6940 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->
12:34 12:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 306940 —
Train is cancelled
12:48 12:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6042 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
12:46 12:54 Tiel Sprinter 6943 —
Train is cancelled
12:46 +3 12:54 Tiel Sprinter 306943 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->

13:00 – 14:00

12 services, 2 cancelled (16.7%), 2 delayed (16.7%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 13:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7242 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
13:06 13:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6043 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
13:04 13:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6942 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
13:18 13:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6044 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
13:16 13:24 Tiel Sprinter 6945 —
Train is cancelled
13:16 +4 13:24 Tiel Sprinter 306945 4
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-3 2994 ->
— 13:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7244 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
13:36 +3 13:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6045 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
13:34 +1 13:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6944 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->
13:48 +5 13:53 +4 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6046 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
13:46 13:54 Tiel Sprinter 6947 —
Train is cancelled
13:46 13:54 Tiel Sprinter 306947 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->

14:00 – 15:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 14:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7246 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
14:06 14:12 +1 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6047 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
14:04 14:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6946 1
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2994, SGMM-3 2960 ->
14:18 14:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6048 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
14:16 +2 14:24 Tiel Sprinter 6949 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->
— 14:39 +5 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7248 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
14:36 14:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6049 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
14:34 +2 14:42 +5 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6948 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->
14:48 +11 14:53 +8 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6050 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
14:46 +1 14:54 Tiel Sprinter 6951 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->

15:00 – 16:00

10 services, 1 cancelled (10%), 1 delayed (10%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 15:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7250 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
15:06 +2 15:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6051 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
15:04 15:12 +8 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6950 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->
15:18 +5 15:23 +2 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6052 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
15:16 15:24 Tiel Sprinter 6953 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2603 ->
— 15:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7252 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
15:36 15:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6053 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
15:34 +2 15:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6952 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->
15:48 15:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6054 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
15:46 15:54 Tiel Sprinter 6955 —
Train is cancelled

16:00 – 17:00

10 services, 1 cancelled (10%), 1 delayed (10%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 16:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7254 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
16:06 16:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6055 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
16:04 16:12 +6 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6954 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2603 ->
16:18 +3 16:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6056 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
16:16 +3 16:24 Tiel Sprinter 6957 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2657 ->
— 16:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7256 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
16:36 16:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6057 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
16:34 16:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6956 —
Train is cancelled
16:48 16:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6058 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
16:46 +2 16:54 Tiel Sprinter 6959 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->

17:00 – 18:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 17:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7258 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
17:06 17:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6059 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
17:04 17:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6958 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2657 ->
17:18 +3 17:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6060 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
17:16 17:24 Tiel Sprinter 6961 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->
— 17:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7260 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
17:36 17:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6061 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
17:34 17:42 +4 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6960 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
17:48 +2 17:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6062 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
17:46 +1 17:54 Tiel Sprinter 6963 4
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2960, SGMM-3 2994 ->

18:00 – 19:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 18:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7262 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
18:06 18:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6063 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
18:04 18:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6962 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->
18:18 18:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6064 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
18:16 18:24 Tiel Sprinter 6965 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->
— 18:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7264 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
18:36 +1 18:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6065 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
18:34 18:42 +5 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6964 1
SGMM-3SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2994, SGMM-3 2960 ->
18:48 +8 18:53 +3 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6066 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
18:46 +5 18:54 +2 Tiel Sprinter 6967 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->

19:00 – 20:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 19:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7266 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
19:06 19:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6067 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
19:04 19:12 +2 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6966 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2606 ->
19:18 +1 19:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6068 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
19:16 +2 19:24 Tiel Sprinter 6969 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->
— 19:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7268 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
19:36 19:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6069 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
19:34 19:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6968 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->
19:48 19:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6070 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
19:46 +2 19:54 Tiel Sprinter 6971 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2603 ->

20:00 – 21:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 20:09 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7270 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
20:06 +2 20:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6071 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
20:04 20:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6970 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->
20:18 +3 20:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6072 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
20:16 20:24 Tiel Sprinter 6973 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2621 ->
— 20:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7272 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
20:36 20:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6073 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
20:34 20:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6972 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2603 ->
20:48 20:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6074 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
20:46 +4 20:54 Tiel Sprinter 6975 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2657 ->

21:00 – 22:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 21:09 +1 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7274 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
21:06 +3 21:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6075 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->
21:04 21:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6974 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2621 ->
21:18 21:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6076 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
21:16 +3 21:24 Tiel Sprinter 6977 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
— 21:39 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7276 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
21:36 21:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6077 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
21:34 21:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6976 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2657 ->
21:46 21:54 Tiel Sprinter 6979 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->
21:48 21:55 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6078 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2452 ->

22:00 – 23:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 22:09 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7278 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
22:06 22:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6079 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
22:04 22:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6978 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2641 ->
22:18 22:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6080 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
22:16 22:24 Tiel Sprinter 6981 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2423 ->
— 22:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7280 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
22:36 +2 22:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6081 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
22:34 22:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6980 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2608 ->
22:48 22:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6082 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
22:46 +2 22:54 Tiel Sprinter 6983 4
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2960 ->

23:00 – 24:00

10 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 23:09 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7282 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
23:06 23:12 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6083 4
SLT-4SLT-4
SLT-4 2419, SLT-4 2457 ->
23:04 23:12 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6982 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2423 ->
23:18 23:23 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6084 1
SLT-4
SLT-4 2439 ->
23:16 +1 23:24 Tiel Sprinter 6985 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->
— 23:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7284 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->
23:36 23:42 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6085 4
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
23:34 23:42 Den Haag Centraal Sprinter 6984 1
SGMM-3
SGMM-3 2960 ->
23:48 23:53 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6086 1
SLT-4SLT-4
SLT-4 2457, SLT-4 2419 ->
23:46 +2 23:54 Tiel Sprinter 6987 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2607 ->

00:00 – 01:00

7 services, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 00:09 +2 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7286 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
00:06 00:11 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6087 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2612 ->
00:04 00:12 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6986 1
SLT-6
SLT-6 2615 ->
00:18 +6 00:23 +1 Utrecht Centraal Sprinter 6088 3
SLT-4
SLT-4 2418 ->
00:16 +2 00:24 Tiel Sprinter 6989 4
SLT-6
SLT-6 2603 ->
— 00:39 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7288 3
GTW-E-QB-2/8
GTW-E-QB-2/8 ->
00:54 00:55 's-Hertogenbosch Sprinter 6089 4
SLT-4SLT-4
SLT-4 2419, SLT-4 2457 ->

01:00 – 02:00

1 service, 0 cancelled (0%), 0 delayed (0%)

Arr. Dep. Destination Train Platf.
— 01:06 Dordrecht Stoptrein 7290 3
GTW-E-QB-2/6
GTW-E-QB-2/6 ->

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